Oh good, the cisgender are giving their opinions on transgender people’s right to exist again.
This time, it’s Saved By the Bell alum and Access Hollywood host Mario Lopez. speaking about stuff he clearly does not know anything about according to, like, doctors and science.
In June, Lopez appeared on alt-right Candace Owens’ show The Candace Owens Show, part of PragerU, the internet’s pre-eminent source for disseminating alt-right rhetoric as plausibly deniable straight-talk using intellectually dishonest bad-faith arguments.
I refuse to link to such dangerous content but Google will serve it up quickly and easily if you’re interested.
Anyway, the big quote catching folks’ attention is this one:
— Yahoo Lifestyle (@yahoolifestyle) July 30, 2019
Now, maybe that’s taken out of context.
So here’s the whole kit and kaboodle:
“Look, I’m never one to tell anyone how to parent their kids obviously and I think if you come from a place of love, you really can’t go wrong but at the same time, my God, if you’re 3 years old and you’re saying you’re feeling a certain way or you think you’re a boy or a girl or whatever the case may be, I just think it’s dangerous as a parent to make this determination then, well, OK, then you’re going to be a boy or a girl, whatever the case may be … It’s sort of alarming and my gosh, I just think about the repercussions later on.”
That long-winded malarkey is bad enough. That’s not how transitioning even works—children can and in extremely rare cases do, change their minds and “de-transition” with few, if any, “repercussions.”
But then Mario took it a step further into forehead-slapping territory:
When you’re a kid … you don’t know anything about sexuality yet. You’re just a kid.”
How loud can I scream this so people like Mario will hear me?
GENDER IDENTITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUALITY.
Here, let an actual doctor explain it.
Here’s Christia Brown PhD., a social psychology professor at the University of Kentucky who spoke to Yahoo! Lifestyle about all this.
Dr. Brown said:
“Many transgender people get frustrated when they’re lumped under the LGBT umbrella because for them, their identity is not about sexual orientation.”
And as for kids exploring gender identity?
“Some children who explore non-stereotypical forms of gender expression are transgender, however others just want a flexible gender expression. Kids are drawn to what they find aesthetically pleasing and there’s often not deeper meaning.”
Sounds like maybe we should calm down.
Mario then went on to criticize the #BelieveWomen movement, which calls on people to…well, believe women when they report sexual assault, calling it:
“a dangerous hashtag because people lie and sometimes those people are women.”
It just keeps getting better.
True to form, here’s the totally inaccurate way Owens and PragerU have spun this controversy.
Evidently it's now *scandalous* to say that a child probably shouldn't be making their own life-altering decisions at 3 years old.
Mario Lopez and Candace Owens discuss.@MarioLopezExtra @RealCandaceO pic.twitter.com/2Wdc79SrjW
— PragerU (@prageru) July 31, 2019
That’s not the issue at hand, nor is it an accurate representation of the backlash.
But that’s no surprise coming from someone like Candace Owens, who’s carved a niche for herself as the Trump-loving Black woman who makes claims like:
- The GOP’s “Southern Strategy,” which used racism to attract white voters in the 60s and 70s, “never happened.” (It did though.)
- The exonerated Central Park Five “were NOT innocent.” (They are though.)
And then there’s this darling quote:
“It’s the weirdest thing I ever heard: ‘I love oppression. We’re oppressed. 400 years of slavery, Jim Crow.’ Which, by the way, none of you guys lived through. Your grandparents did. And it’s embarrassing that you utilize their history, you utilize their history and you come in here with more emotion than they ever had when they were living through it. You’re not living through anything right now. You’re overly privileged Americans.”
Meanwhile, here’s a link to some statistics on the Black/White wage gap, for starters.
So, you know, not quite sure Candace Owens is the vessel for a good faith discussion of any issue, Mario!
Anyway, as you might guess, none of this sat well with many folks online.
mario lopez not only claimed women are liars when they come forward and share their sexual assault experience but he also thinks it’s dangerous for children to explore genders and sexuality. wow so he’s disgusting and cancelled 🤡 pic.twitter.com/TUJVGd2Qmj
— c (@C011EENMB) July 31, 2019
Can confirm he has thought this way for many years. Sat next to him and civilly argued these points several years ago when we were working on a TV show together. He’s dug in with this backward nonsense. Told me I didn’t get it because it was a “Latin thing”🙄
— Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) July 31, 2019
You know what is dangerous?
His ignorance 🤦🏻♀️
— Living Intentionally (@NatalieBeeler) July 31, 2019
Taking women at their word is “incredibly dangerous”? Mario Lopez sounds like a Commander from Gilead! pic.twitter.com/aJKVaYlXu3
— LiNCOLN PARK (@linc0lnpark) July 31, 2019
Mario Lopez’s suggestion that parents ought not accept their trans kids — kids who face staggering levels of suicide, bullying and other hurdles — is cruel. He conflated sexual orientation and gender identity, which is a pretty big tell that ya don’t know anything about this.
— Alex Berg (@itsalexberg) July 31, 2019
It's unfortunate that someone who is so involved with @GLAAD like @MarioLopezExtra would be so misinformed about #trans kids. I wish that he would reach out to @sarahkateellis for some guidance on the difference between sex and gender identity https://t.co/JrGkfHTP2y
— Alexandra Halaby (@iskandrah) July 31, 2019
It’s okay @MarioLopezExtra. We’re here to help provide more education on what being #transgender means, the difference between #sexualorientation, #sex, and #gender… and a whole lot of other things. https://t.co/ahjYTyenMD
— PFLAG National (@PFLAG) July 31, 2019
I sincerely hope none of his children fall outside his idea of "normal", people like him are why suicide rates are so high in lgbtq kids and teens.
— underage women are CHILDREN (@tiffitoo) July 31, 2019
Mario Lopez’s comments are dangerous to the safety and well-being of LGBTQ youth, especially trans children who deserve to be loved and accepted for who they are. https://t.co/iRBwyobelf
— Human Rights Campaign (@HRC) July 31, 2019
Dear Mario Lopez,
Transphobic parents are the danger not children being their truest selves.
Too many parents terrorize their children by forcing them into these gender boxes and limiting their expression. If you're doing this, your parenting sucks.https://t.co/szwUxJG8UQ
— Raquel Willis (@RaquelWillis_) July 31, 2019
— Being LGBTQ Podcast🏳️🌈 (@BeingLGBTQPod) July 31, 2019
Of our 5 kids, 2 are queer. They both came out in their early teens but we knew who they were way, way before then.
Parents can tell the different between a 3 year old who pretends to be another gender for fun and one who feels they are living in the wrong body. STFU Mario Lopez https://t.co/pKXketgy6P
— Holly Figueroa O'Reilly (@AynRandPaulRyan) July 31, 2019
Let us take this as a reminder that it’s okay to just shut up when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
As a wise person once said:
"Shutting up is free" – African American proverb
— Dr. Laila 👋🏾 (@FrontRowMama) May 30, 2019